Secretary General of the Front National, Nicolas Bay talked to Magyar Hírlap about migration and the criticism against Viktor Orbán as well. According to the French MEP Nicolas Sarkozy’s tough rhetoric about migration is discredited by his role in the intervention in Libya.
According to our PM Orbán, Western Europe has made an experiment for decades with accepting mass immigration and we don't want to repeat it. From a French point of view is the multicultural society a success story?
First, we should bear in mind that it's only our governments that accepted mass immigration: they never asked our peoples about this! Building a multicultural society is building an unstable society. We think that there should be only one main identity and one community, the national one, in one country. This is the French tradition of assimilation: if some strangers want to settle in our country, they need to adapt to our traditions and also our rules. With mass immigration, and multicultural thoughts of many of our politicians and intellectuals, from “left” to “right”, we're now facing a totally different situation. We're facing communities, who identify themselves first to their origin country or civilization, or with their religion. France is coming on a second level and sometimes, it's the case for many youths that feel free to say that they f*** France, even seen as an adversary. This is the growing situation for decades now.
Calais is the most visible symptom of the current migration crisis.
Sadly, Calais is not only a current issue. Actually, this terrible situation has now lasted for 15 years! Before Calais, there was Sangatte, another town, 12 kilometers away from Calais, that encountered the same kind of situation from 1999 to 2005. For most of these so-called “refugees” the solution should be simple: taking them back to their country!
How can this be solved in the long term?
We must make ours the Australian words in front of illegal immigration: NO WAY! It means that “migrants”, a new word for "illegal immigrants" in Newspeak, should know that there will be nothing for them in our country, that there will be no possibility for them to receive social benefits, which we should stop anyway, and become French citizens since they crossed illegally our borders, and that we'll send them back to their country automatically and quickly. We should also bring back the boats transporting migrants to their departure ports, instead of helping them to arrive to our coasts. That's what should be the mission of our boats! With Schengen agreements, the European Union abolished the internal frontiers, but without creating a real and strong external frontier. Facing this, I think it's now time to take back our possibility to decide who's entering, or not entering, into our national space and so we got to break Schengen agreements.
Do you agree with the criticism towards the Hungarian Prime Minister’s migration policies?
Mr Orbán delivered a great speech in Strasbourg in front of the eurocrats who have been attacking him and the Fidesz MEPs for years. On the day following his speech, I published a press release in which I welcomed some of the true words Mr Orbán spoke and that I had already quoted on social networks: “we want that Europe remains the continent of the Europeans and that Hungary’s future belongs to Hungarians”.
You know, since I got involved in politics, as I was 14 years old, I have always considered that the first mission of a national leader is to defend his people! So, what are the critics against Viktor Orbán? First, he asked Hungarians how they feel about the situation regarding immigration. I know that most of these guys in Brussels, especially the “Commissioners” but also many EPP MEPs who do not hesitate to attack their colleagues of Fidesz, have a kind of problem with asking the people their views, but in my opinion this is just what we used to call democracy! And I feel very comfortable with this, more than they. On the other hand, there are many critics about Hungary building a wall to defend its frontier from illegal immigration. I’d prefer our Interior Minister doing this instead of coming to refugee centers to shake hands with illegal immigrants!
According to Mr Orbán “the really serious threats are not arriving from the war zones, but from the depths of Africa, as Northern Africa today can no longer defend Europe from the immense masses of people”. In the light of France’s intervention in Libya, is Nicolas Sarkozy’s tough rhetoric regarding migration credible?
Definitely not! For some stupid, and maybe hidden reasons Sarkozy led this military intervention in Libya and caused the global chaos in this area. The new explosion of illegal immigration coming by Mediterranean Sea but also the situation with most of Islamist armed organizations is under his personal and direct responsibility. On a more national plan, let's say that during the five years he was President, one million new legal migrants entered our country and so many illegal ones. As Interior Minister, he's also the one who abolished the automatic expulsion of strangers condemned in our country. Tough words can't resist the facts...
How are the prospects of the Front National in France?
Little by little, the political situation is coming clearer in France. We got on one side those who think that we're now on the “global village” and that nations are now old fashioned things that should disappear. They're split in two different parties (and allies), calling them “left” or “right”, the socialists of President Francois Hollande or the Republicans of Sarkozy, but are mainly leading the same politics. And on the other side you got the patriots, those who fight for the nation and the people, and also for nations and peoples, that are now in or around the Front National. We're strengthening our movement and our bases in every local elections and it should be the case once more in next December with the regional elections.
Can you prevail in the European Parliament with a leftist-liberal majority?
Most of them are part of the current problems Europe is facing, in each of our old countries. A positive union of those who want to defend, preserve, protect, our countries and peoples and also our common civilization should emerge in the EP. Our parliamentary group, Europe of Nations and Freedom, built with MEPs from 8 countries, is a first base but we're aiming in the months and years to come at enlarging and deepening our ties and alliances with other countries and other political forces that are sharing the same ideas and further the same ideals.
